That’s Deep Podcast: Personal Development for Empaths


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Join Naomi for an audio replay of her livestream on the topic of empaths and co-dependency.

Empaths can often get caught up in codependent relationships:

Co-dependency Defined: An emotional and behavioral condition that affects an individual’s ability to have a healthy, mutually satisfying relationship

These relationships are often one-sided and emotional destructive and toxic.


  • An exaggerated sense of responsibility for the actions of others
  • Tendency to confuse “love” with “pity”
  • Tendency to do more than their share, all of the time
  • Feeling hurt when their efforts aren’t recognized
  • Lack of trust in self or others
  • Fear of being abandoned or alone
  • Difficulty in identifying own feelings
  • Chronic anger
  • Lying/dishonesty
  • Poor communication
  • Difficulty with making decisions
  • Being dismissive or forgetful or what happens within the relationship on a daily basis

Co-dependent relationships are rooted in many factors, but it's also rooted in limiting beliefs (ex. “I’m not strong enough.”

Here's some examples of how this is actually showing up for us in our lives as empaths.

  • Seeking the advice of others for most of all your decision making
  • Giving your personal power away by seeking permission from others first
  • Not trusting your own intuition

If you’re an empath in a relationship looking for more guidance with releasing limiting beliefs like these so that you can stand in your own personal power in your partnerships…

I’d love to invite you to join me in the Empowered Empath Coaching Course. This is my 8-week, 1:1 coaching program for empaths who want to understand their gifts, overcome energetic overwhelm, release limiting beliefs, and build better boundaries in their relationships.

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Here’s The Real Reason Why You’re Feeling Resentment In Your Relationships

Join Naomi in her latest livestream replay where she covers the topic of empaths and feeling resentment in their relationships.

So, why are empaths often people pleasers?

  • Self-image plays into people pleasing: Having poor boundaries is often associated with having low-self worth and esteem.
  • It feels uncomfortable to say “no” because we literally absorb energy as empaths and can take on the emotions of others.
  • Sometimes we believe that other people’s happiness is more important than our own.
  • Empaths have the gift of deep feeling and can be faced with emotional manipulation from boundary crossers.

Does this sound familiar at all? Don't worry, I've been there too. But congratulations because being aware of these things is the first step in deciding that you want to do things differently this time.

So here's what's important to remember:

1. It is vital to remember that you are ALWAYS worthy of an equal energy exchange.

2. Know the different types of boundaries that are commonly crossed with empaths:

  • Verbal: Being yelled or screamed at, being on the receiving end of hateful or even abusive language
  • Psychological/emotional: When someone preys on your self-esteem, manipulates you, makes your feel ashamed when there’s nothing to feel guilty about, being gaslighted, or being constantly criticized.
  • Physical: When someone physically assaults you, harms your property, or inappropriately touches you.

3. Commit to your boundaries:

  • It might feel scary to keep having to experience uncomfortable situations where you have to say “no” when you’re so used to saying yes (it’ll feel foreign at first, but it needs to be built up like a muscle)
  • Lack of commitment to maintaining the boundaries you try to set will have you getting the same results

*A part of the conversation in this podcast episode briefly mentioned the topic of physical abuse. If you or a loved one is experiencing abuse, please call the National Domestic Violence Hotline (Call 1.800.799.SAFE (7233))

Are you an Empath or highly-sensitive person? Have you ever felt resentment in your relationships? Are you interested in building better boundaries?

I'd love to invite you to learn your Empath type! If you haven’t taken my free Empath type quiz yet, use this link to find out your type:

Once you find out your type, you’ll also be emailed a free guided meditation that corresponds to your Empath type and what that type could benefit from.

Looking forward to hearing which type of Empath you are!


Naomi International Board Certified Life + Success Coach and NLP Practitioner for Empaths


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Why being highly-sensitive isn’t a weakness

Tune into the replay of Naomi's livestream on the topic of how our sensitivities as empaths are not a weakness.

As Empaths, we think that this is the problem. We feel like just because we’re different, we “can never get what we want, because that’s just the empath struggle.”

As Empaths and highly-sensitives, we have always felt different than others. We were often labeled “too sensitive” by others while growing up (it actually turns out to be a gift.

There are people out there who are just like you:

Incredibly intuitive (many have psychic gifts)

Natural healers who want to help everyone (just want to make everyone happy - unfortunately, even at their own happiness’ expense)

You’re the person that your family, friends, and partners reach out to when they want to feel better

Our real problem is our mindset.

Are you at cause for your life? Or in effect? (Which one is more empowering)

You might have said this before: “I’m just an empath and I’ll always be stuck in relationships that drain me.”

Your words create your thoughts, and your thoughts create your actions, and your actions create your reality

What you’re saying and what you’re putting into the world is what you’ll attract and see.

Your emotions shape your reality as well.

There is only feedback, no failure

If you’ve tried setting boundaries before or attempted to improve your significant relationships in other ways that just haven’t worked yet it just means you’ll have to try different tools and a different route (reassess, not give up).

What’s your Empath type? If you haven’t taken my free Empath type quiz yet, visit the following link to take the assessment:

Once you find out your type, you’ll also be emailed a free guided meditation that corresponds to your Empath type and what that type can benefit from.

Thanks! Looking forward to hearing which type of Empath you are!


International Board Certified Life + Success Coach | NLP Practioner for Empaths


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Tired of feeling misunderstood by everyone (including you)?

Join Naomi's replay audio recording of her livestream on the topics of empaths and being misunderstood. Naomi starts by sharing her personal experience with feeling perpetually misunderstood. She also covers the following in the episode:

How we're facing an identity crisis collectively, but especially as empaths

How common it is for empaths to feel misunderstood in their relationships

How we think that as empaths, nobody will EVER be able to make me feel heard/seen (too different)

Harsh Truth: It’s not other people’s job to make you feel understood or seen. That’s our job to do for ourselves first.

Understanding her inner wiring as an empath, introvert, and INFJ personality type really helped Naomi understand her needs on an identity level. It also gave her a new sense of freedom and autonomy in her relationships (because she gets to be her own person).

Here's 7 Reasons Why Identity Should Matter to Us:

When we lack a strong sense of who we are, it’s easier to undermine own sense of self and it’s easier to marginalize ourselves (ex. I’m too shy, I’m too sensitive)

Understanding our identity can help us become aware of + maximize our energy reserves

It builds deeper connections with others/loved ones

It’s important to know ourselves because in order to love ourselves and develop stronger senses of self-worth, and with that....we have to know ourselves. We have to love ourselves first in order to love others (this means you need to get to know yourself + who you are at your core)

You’ll have better influence over your own decisions

When you don’t claim your identity, you become a sitting duck for exploitation of identity

If you don’t know who you are and what motivates you, you feel like you have less control and power over yourself

Identity = connected to your life’s purpose

What’s your Empath type?  If you haven’t taken my free Empath type quiz yet, visit the following link to take the assessment:   Once you find out your type, you’ll also be emailed a free guided meditation that corresponds to your Empath type and what that type can benefit from.    Thanks! Looking forward to hearing which type of Empath you are!    Naomi   International Board Certified Life + Success Coach | NLP Practioner for Empaths


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Five Things Your Empath Partner Really Wants You To Know About Being In A Relationship With Them

Join Naomi in the replay of her livestream where she shares 5 Common Empath Problems in Relationships:

Not seeing eye-to-eye with your partner/family member - seeing things differently

Feeling misunderstood, not feeling heard/seen, losing your sense of identity/individuality

Difficulty with holding healthy boundaries

Absorbing the energy of their loved one

Savior syndrome, wanting to fix them

Here's 5 things the empath you’re in a relationship wants you to know:

Be patient with us: We are highly-sensitive and conflict can be very distressing to us because we deeply feel the energy and emotions of both of us.

Be supportive: We need someone to believe in us and show us that our deep gift of feeling isn’t crazy or made up.

Don’t deny our experiences just because they’re different than yours.

Respect our autonomy: Our worst nightmare is to be controlled. Give us the freedom that we deserve.

Deep connections are a must: We are worthy of an equal energy exchange.

Respect that we might be experiencing a different reality than you do:

We each perceive the world and make decisions differently, based on your own inner wiring

Knowing our personality type and profile as an empath helps us to hold space for each others differences

Are you an Empath or in a relationship with one? Join our discussion on common empath struggles in relationships and the key things that the empath that you're in a relationship with really wants you to know.  What’s your Empath type?  If you haven’t taken my free Empath type quiz yet, visit the following link to take the assessment:  Once you find out your type, you’ll also be emailed a free guided meditation that corresponds to your Empath type and what that type can benefit from.   Thanks! Looking forward to hearing which type of Empath you are!   Naomi  International Board Certified Life + Success Coach | NLP Practioner for Empaths


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There’s Nothing Wrong With You. You’re Just Energetically Sensitive.

Are you an Empath or Highly-Sensitive Person? This is what I wish my former overwhelmed, misunderstood, disempowered self knew 4 years ago.

In this podcast episode, I share my livestream that I did for my Empath Series and I talk about my story on how I found out that I was an empath. You'll hear my journey through working a job that was overwhelming for my nervous system, thinking something was wrong with me, and perpetually feeling misunderstood in my relationships at home and at work.

I still have to thank my friend who introduced me to personality types over lunch that one afternoon in my 9-5 job. That's when I found out that I was introverted and BOOM! That opened up the gates to a lot of “ah-has” and insights about myself and my inner wiring. Because, I’ve always felt different and never really felt like I fit in. If you're an empath, you understand this struggle too.

Then I found out that approximately 70% of people who are introverted are highly-sensitive people (HSPs). An HSP is person who is very sensitive to their external stimuli, environment, and people. This can often cause them to feel overwhelmed and overstimulated. Empaths are also highly-sensitive people, but the key difference is that they can take on, absorb, and process the emotions that others around them are feeling.

Some other common struggles that you may relate to as an empath include:

-Learning to love and accept ourselves

-Self-love, self-worth, insecurity/lack of self-confidence

-Fear of abandonment, judgement, persecution

-Fear of conflict or upsetting others

-Uncomfortable with feeling vulnerable

-Fear of speaking up/ speaking truth (as empaths, although we so deeply want to connect through sharing)

-Self-criticism + Perfectionism

-Poor boundaries and resentment


What’s your Empath type? If you haven’t taken my free Empath type quiz yet, click this link to the assessment:

Once you find out your type, you’ll also be emailed a free guided meditation that corresponds to your Empath type and what that type can benefit from.

Looking forward to hearing which type of Empath you are!


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How to Stop People Pleasing as an INFJ and Introvert

Have you ever asked the universe for a sign and received it? Our most recent guest shares her story of how this happened to her and how it led to many shifts happening in her life. It was such an honor having Leah Carrillo Rivera as a guest on the That’s Deep Podcast! She is an INFJ, a mother of two, wife, life coach, and the creator behind the Serenity Journal Planner. She helps parents and teachers learn valuable life skills so they can teach their kids/students through coaching, workshops, and more. Leah is a registered nurse who resigned from her pediatric nursing job of seven years at a Children’s Hospital in her city due to health issues and to protect the health of her baby. Now she’s a life coach and she also does business coaching for new nurse entrepreneurs with her husband! Leah is a very spiritual person and she was very open about her faith in God and asking for signs from the universe. In this episode, we hear Leah’s personal story where she got very sick three years ago and was put on bedrest. The doctors didn’t understand why and she was on 20 meds and 15 supplements just to feel normal. It was because of this that she turned to holistic healing. When she turned 28, she finally threw her box of medications away. She also shared that her husband (also a nurse) had gotten attacked by his patient in the past and has been on disability ever since. Because of these life changing experiences, she knew how hard it might be to get pregnant. However, this past year she and her husband decided to try and have another baby. Leah noticed that every time she went back in to work, she noticed she would get her symptoms back. So, she and her husband made the decision that if she were to get pregnant, she would leave her job. And guess what? She found out that she was pregnant, that same week! At that point, she sent in her resignation letter within the following week or two and the rest was history! In this episode, we wear our mom hats and talk about how we’ll do anything for our kids, even though we may not do anything for ourselves and our own health. Sometimes it takes something as big as a pregnancy to really take care of your physical and emotional health. Leah also shares her story of going through bouts of anxiety and depression. It was hard for her to understand how all of a sudden she got sick. One day she had a dream that the reason that she was sick was that she didn’t love or take care of herself and she woke up crying. She then realized that she was taking care of everyone else before herself. As a recovering people pleaser, she realized that if she wants to be a good mom and nurse, then she needs to take care of herself and love herself first. This has become something she wants to teach her family and kids. This story is one that I know a lot of people can relate to here in the That’s Deep Podcast Community. Tune-in to the episode to learn more! You can connect with Leah in the following ways: On IG:

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How to Use Myers-Briggs Personality Types to Improve Your Family Relationships

“One thing that I would never change about myself is my sensitivity.” “It’s been a journey because I grew up thinking my sensitivity was a flaw…”

This was one of the many valuable insights that was shared by Sandra, our latest podcast guest on the That’s Deep Podcast.

Sandra Etherington is a mother of two, an Enneagram 1, INFJ, and an MBTI and MMTIC Certified Family Type Practitioner who currently lives in Bend, Oregon. She also runs a podcast, called Family Personalities.

She uses the Myers-Briggs Personality Type System (MBTI) to help type parents and their kids, so that they can better understand each other, have more compassion for one another, parent more effectively, and work in harmony with their spouse.

MBTI has been a big part of helping her understand her sensitivity in all aspects (strengths and weaknesses). What she most loves about herself as a parent, partner, and friend is her ability to step into what's really happening with other people’s emotions and have deep empathy. Without her sensitivity, her super power wouldn’t be there. I appreciate her efforts to start changing the narrative around sensitivity and being sensitive. She is a sensitive mother who encourages us to see our sensitivities as a gift and not a weakness.

Listen to the episode to learn helpful tips on parenting kids of different personality types! We also talk about how to manage your energy as an introverted mother and we break down how you can use MBTI to help enhance your family relationships. You’ll absolutely want to bookmark and save this episode if you’re a parent who’s looking to improve their relationship with their children, if you work with children and want to work with them more effectively and compassionately, or if you’re looking to improve your relationship with your spouse.

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Embodying Authenticity as an INFJ Entrepreneur

Are you an aspiring entrepreneur, online business owner, or coach? You and I both know that the online industry is flooded with coaches, consultants, and strategists who promise you the sun, moon, and stars, right? We can’t open our social media accounts without hearing phrases like, “Quit your 9-5 and live the laptop lifestyle,” or “Scale your business to six figures!” The buzzwords go on and on, and everyone ends up sounding like carbon copies of one another. That’s not you though. You’re built with authenticity, evidence-based measures, and honesty about which transformations you can actually bring your clients through. You’re unique and different from the rest, and intend on standing out beyond the crowd of copy cats and mimickers. You’re not here to sell pipe dreams and you definitely aren’t a snake-oil saleswoman. You actually want to provide life-changing transformations for your clients, based on real results that are measurable and vetted against proven frameworks, right? Whether that’s in their business, relationships, health/fitness, or mindset. But you spend your nights awake, wondering how you’re ever going to start a business amongst all of the noise online. You want to know the best avenue to take as a brand new coach and you’re curious about how to monetize your business. Real talk, you also want to know the reason behind why you’re having a hard time attracting your first paid (and aligned) clients. “It has never been my goal to sell dreams on the internet,” says our latest podcast guest, Kyshira Moffett, an INFJ, award-winning serial entrepreneur, brand strategist, MBA, podcast host, and author who specializes in helping ambitious women entrepreneurs package their expertise, brand their influence, and monetize their online presence. Of course, because this is a mindset podcast, we touch on the importance of making internal shifts (the mindset shifts) needed to become a thriving and abundant business owner. We talk about letting go of “overworked and underpaid” narrative, setting boundaries, busting self-limiting beliefs, navigating money mindset, learning about the law of attraction and the power of visualization, and the importance of vibrations when it comes to manifesting your desires. You’ll want to bookmark and save this episode for your business resources, because you won’t want to miss out on all of Kyshira’s golden nuggets of business wisdom. Tune-in to learn more about the importance of having a signature offer, speaking your customers language, leveraging video content, how to message your brand and services, and how to position yourself online. To connect with Kyshira on Instagram: To connect with Naomi on Instagram: To book a personal reading or coaching session, please visit:

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What Fear Can Teach Us: Finding Forgiveness and Compassion

Fear. We all feel it. But what can we actually learn from it?

Tune-in to our latest podcast episode to find out! It was an honor to have Charles Woolfork back on the That’s Deep Podcast for Season 3! He is a hypnotherapist, mindset coach, motivational speaker, and a mental and emotional healer.

In this episode, it was a party of three intuitive types (an INFJ, ENFP, and ENFJ)! It was so refreshing to have my husband Riley back on the show with me to co-host this insightful second interview with Charles.

Join us in this episode as we talk about surviving Hurricane Douglas in Hawaii, how he’s been dealing with everything that’s been going on in the world with the pandemic and the racial justice movements, what he’s learned from processing fear, and how to do mental and emotional release. It’s all mindset work folks!

We hear about what Charles feels like his inner child needed in terms of love, processing the death of his brother, how he handled being let go from his previous job with grace, and how he realized that finding love will bring out the baggage in you (you know, the work that’s still left to be done within you).

Tune-in to hear how he used the Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) technique of mental and emotional release to bring himself to a place of abundance and prosperity in his relationships.

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